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No-Self and Buddhism
|#> In relation to the comparison of the 2 religions Hindu and Buddhism is this
|#> where 'non self' was introduced. My understanding of non self was for the
|#> other religions in India at the time, now defined as Hindu, and their belief
|#> that more than just kamma was transfered duringtheir rebirth. So to
|#> differentiate between the two, nonself was introduced. Hence in Buddhism it
|#> is only the kamma, not spirit caste etc.
|# Yes this is I think what happened. Partly Anatman (no-soul) was
|# introduced to specifically repudiate the Upanishadic tradition of
|# Atman having a permanent essential nature (identical with Brahma).
|#
|# However it also those of us that have grown up in a Christian
|# influenced society which also believes in a soul.
| Is this to be let go of? Is this an attachment on *I,me,my*?
yes
| Personally if I go, sobeit, my soul was attached to my shoe and can remain
| there:-p
apparently this means you've realized the conditional reality of that
so many like to identify as a central identity
| Just my kamma account will remain open for the next life (describing it
| this way is also an attachment).
karma as an adhesion dissappears except socially when examined critically,
just as the notion of an atman vaporizes with any consistent attention
| That's why I try to assist others rather than just look after myself
| (a norm of todays society).
convention. self-interest; being helpful to get karma-points
| Respectively the first will help my kamma account the later my bank account
| but would not be any use next life around.
karma account -- variables on how to close it; some suggest
that a Zero Sum balance is needed = 0 with
no positive or negative karma; some suggest
that you need a positive balance; some say
that karma is not the determining factor
bank account -- this pertains only to your range of dominion
| Maybe if our fear is - what about my soul? Why not concider the kamma
| account instead. What is the difference?
the difference is that the soul is continual identity
| If with Christianity, would the kamma be satisfactory for judgement (is that
| why hell is envisaged with red).
a very good question; typically the karma would have to be tallied by the
Cosmic God in order to have any bearing on the Judgment
| Is the soul to focus on *your* only life, hence the need for part of
| *you* to go the heaven with *your* kamma?
quite correct
| Personally if you can go to heaven/hell after death, how can you not then be
| reincarnated. Is this a reincarnation anyway?
no, because the idea is that the meat-body is left behind, or transmuted
into the heavenly realm ('ascended bodily', as special legendary persons)
and changed into some 'perfect' substance
| In the bible others are writting *their* version of an occurence, the
| Dhamma is a quote of what was said by Buddha or other monks at a site.
too simplistic. suffice it to say that religious tracts are unreliable
| By having people write their version is this tainted by their *self*
and transmitted through a tradition this taints it by virtue of some
kind of reputation to uphold (school's authority, master's level, etc.)