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		<id>http://avidyana.org/index.php?title=practice&amp;diff=1930&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Nagasiva at 10:51, 11 May 2024</title>
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		<updated>2024-05-11T10:51:41Z</updated>

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		<title>Nagasiva: dozen cat</title>
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		<updated>2024-05-11T07:37:27Z</updated>

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		<author><name>Nagasiva</name></author>
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		<title>Nagasiva: start</title>
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		<updated>2019-07-15T15:22:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;start&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;PRE&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Buddhism, Occultism, and Mysticism&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|There arose a question recently asking if Buddhism forbade the occult, to &lt;br /&gt;
|which the overwhelming response was yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ah yes, but never did these people tell us what 'the occult' meant to them.&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore the responses were mostly meaningless.  By far the responses that&lt;br /&gt;
indicated 'yes' merely affirmed their desire that the subjects not be&lt;br /&gt;
conflated within the forum in question.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|Why do many Buddhists restrict their diet (i.e. from meat)?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most religious follow orthodox praxis as a function of conformism.  &lt;br /&gt;
That is, they do it because they are told it is the best way to live.&lt;br /&gt;
Some may do it because of philosophical or ethical reasons (cf. 'ahimsa',&lt;br /&gt;
for example).  Some do it because it leads to particular states of&lt;br /&gt;
consciousness which they desire.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|Of those who meditate or attempt to meditate, you know there are certain &lt;br /&gt;
|	things which are harmful to your practice (i.e. music, strong odors, &lt;br /&gt;
|	food, exceptional noise).  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Actually what you are here characterizing as 'harmful' is only a pointer&lt;br /&gt;
toward what makes practice *difficult*.  It does not actually harm the&lt;br /&gt;
practice per se, though it may pose an obstacle to the undedicated or&lt;br /&gt;
impatient.  Advanced practice actually intentionally includes such things.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|Why do you refrain from such distractions before and during meditation?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The best reason of which I am aware is that if we attempt advanced&lt;br /&gt;
practice before we have mastered beginning practice then we may not&lt;br /&gt;
derive benefit from it.  Distractions are usually obstacles to the&lt;br /&gt;
beginner.  To the adept, they are challenges to be overcome.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|Why do we attempt to be in certain places at certain times of the year?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm really not sure what you are asking or how this applies to your&lt;br /&gt;
rhetorical questions (beauties) asked above, though I'd love to hear&lt;br /&gt;
more as to why you ask this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|most Buddhists are at least a little mystical.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That is also my understanding, especially when one takes the definition&lt;br /&gt;
for 'mystical' which incorporates a more 'transpersonal' approach&lt;br /&gt;
(cf 'transpersonal psychology' in the West).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|While not occultists, one is only the extreme form of the other.  &lt;br /&gt;
|Different branches &amp;quot;revere&amp;quot; meditation and mysticism to certain extents.  &lt;br /&gt;
|At what point mysticism turns into occulism is unclear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Precisely, and this is best seen by those who make a study of either or&lt;br /&gt;
both.  They are in many senses the same thing seen in different contexts&lt;br /&gt;
and by different people.  Usually when religious attempt to separate&lt;br /&gt;
themselves from either they have a very particular (and rather useless)&lt;br /&gt;
meaning which the author didn't really intend to convey.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/PRE&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Nagasiva</name></author>
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