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		<title>Nagasiva at 10:51, 11 May 2024</title>
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		<author><name>Nagasiva</name></author>
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		<title>Nagasiva: dozen cat</title>
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		<author><name>Nagasiva</name></author>
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		<title>Nagasiva: teachings</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;teachings&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;PRE&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Five Criteria of Authentic Instruction&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the path of buddhism consistently includes an examination of any &lt;br /&gt;
 presumed permanent self, organization or society.  with this in mind,&lt;br /&gt;
 herein find an expansion on the instruction of Deshung Rinpoche III,&lt;br /&gt;
 as quoted by hermes@euronet.nl (David Sullivan) as regards &amp;quot;Buddhism&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;No matter how good a teaching may sound, no matter how profound or&lt;br /&gt;
|eloquent it may be, or how similar to other true teachings it may&lt;br /&gt;
|appear, it is wise to have reservations about any doctrine that&lt;br /&gt;
|promises to lead to this or that spiritual goal.  Such a teaching&lt;br /&gt;
|should be examined carefully before you embark on its path.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
this is very profound instruction and lies at the heart of buddhism&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|...a doctrine that is worthy of study and practice should be one &lt;br /&gt;
|that was taught by Lord Buddha himself.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
if this is understood to be an historical statement, then we must&lt;br /&gt;
 reject it, for from outside a system of knowledge we cannot come&lt;br /&gt;
 to discern the past as one may attempt to discern the future with&lt;br /&gt;
 fortune-telling&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
for this reason it is here rephrased so as to become more inclusive:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	a doctrine that is worthy of study and practice should&lt;br /&gt;
	be one which is taught by Lord Buddha himself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
this does not carry the necessary historical reference, allowing that&lt;br /&gt;
 the dedicated may establish a relationship, through skilfull means&lt;br /&gt;
 (_upaya_), with the Buddha directly, or through a lineage which may&lt;br /&gt;
 purport to confer these teachings.  in *each case* we must satisfy&lt;br /&gt;
 *ourselves* that this connection is sound, and if others may disagree&lt;br /&gt;
 with our assessment, their continued skepticism should be encouraged,&lt;br /&gt;
 not dissuaded&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|Of all teachers, Lord Buddha is the one who attained the highest &lt;br /&gt;
|possible spiritual enlightenment, and through his great compassion &lt;br /&gt;
|taught others the way to that same enlightenment. ...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
trash for the converts.  discard this as propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;...students should make sure that the teachings spoken by Lord&lt;br /&gt;
|Buddha are among those that were collected by the great compilers such&lt;br /&gt;
|as Vajrapani and Manjushri, the great bodhisattvas who bore the&lt;br /&gt;
|responsibility of preserving the direct teachings of Lord Buddha in&lt;br /&gt;
|written form.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
again, very important advice, and we must first come to know,&lt;br /&gt;
 therefore, who these great compilers were, and why there is a &lt;br /&gt;
 focus upon them in the preservation of the Buddha's teachings&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
unfortunately, this sets up a domino-effect wherein we must then&lt;br /&gt;
 discover a means to determine the legitimacy of accounts regarding&lt;br /&gt;
 the bodhisattvas, unless we come to establish a direct relationship&lt;br /&gt;
 with them  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;...students should ensure that the teachings in question are&lt;br /&gt;
|among those expounded by the great pandits such as Nagarjuna, Asanga,&lt;br /&gt;
|and others. ...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
here the domino-effect begins, and we see that the intent is to support&lt;br /&gt;
 the lineage-system in a manner similar to that of countless other&lt;br /&gt;
 mystico-religious schools.  that this tails off in a generalization&lt;br /&gt;
 (&amp;quot;great pandits such as..... and others....&amp;quot;) is to the writer's&lt;br /&gt;
 credit, for the path of awakening is diverse, and the great pandits&lt;br /&gt;
 from a variety of cultures, schools, lineages, and religions&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;...the teachings should be among those that were meditated on by&lt;br /&gt;
|the great yogis and siddhas of India and Tibet.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
here we enter into the folly of cultural bigotry, though we can see&lt;br /&gt;
 why there is such attachment to the instruction of these fine teachers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
instead, a more inclusive alternative is here stated:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	the teachings should be among those meditated upon by&lt;br /&gt;
	the great yogis and gurus of the world.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|They should also be included among the texts that were translated &lt;br /&gt;
|by the great translators from their original Sanskrit into other &lt;br /&gt;
|languages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
again, this becomes acceptable when we generalize 'Sanskrit' to 'language'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Deshung Rinpoche III wishes to insularize the way of buddhism into a&lt;br /&gt;
 religious containment, and with good reason.  however, to do so will&lt;br /&gt;
 eventually corrupt the instructions of the Buddha at base, through&lt;br /&gt;
 attempting to place into lasting structure that which is a formless&lt;br /&gt;
 and empty (sunyata) wisdom&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;...the teachings should be well known among great Buddhist&lt;br /&gt;
|scholars.  They should not be recondite teachings of doubtful&lt;br /&gt;
|veracity, doubtful origin, or cryptic sense.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
in a generalized manner (&amp;quot;buddhist&amp;quot; rather than the named &amp;quot;Buddhist&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
 this is quite profound.  beware of those who market the name of the&lt;br /&gt;
 Buddha for purposes of promoting social lineage, however.  the wisdom&lt;br /&gt;
 of the Buddha comes in many packages, to many doorsteps, through many&lt;br /&gt;
 carriers, and no single source guarantees awakening for all people &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;When you have found teachings that meet all these criteria, you can&lt;br /&gt;
|be confident that you have found authentic teachings that are worthy&lt;br /&gt;
|of your time, effort and study.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-- Deshung Rinpoche III, oral translation by Jared Rhoton, &amp;quot;The Three&lt;br /&gt;
|Levels of Spiritual Perception&amp;quot; (Wisdom Publications, 1995), pp.6-7.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
very discerning and here restated more simply and inclusively:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     bring skepticism to any doctrine which purports to lead to a goal &lt;br /&gt;
     of power (spiritual or no).  such a teaching should be examined &lt;br /&gt;
     carefully before you embark on its path.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	* a doctrine worthy of study and practice should come from the&lt;br /&gt;
	  very heart of the source to which it attaches itself (in the&lt;br /&gt;
	  case of buddhism, direct from the Buddha)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	* students should make sure that the teachings which derive&lt;br /&gt;
	  from this source were collected by individuals who were&lt;br /&gt;
	  present at the time of instruction, those who took it upon&lt;br /&gt;
	  themselves to collect and redistribute the teachings themselves&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	* students should ensure that the teachings in question are&lt;br /&gt;
	  among those expounded by the great pandits of the culture&lt;br /&gt;
	  from which the teachings themselves derive &lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
	* the teachings should be among those meditated upon by the &lt;br /&gt;
	  great practitioners and teachers of the world.  they should &lt;br /&gt;
	  also be included among the texts that were translated by the &lt;br /&gt;
	  great translators from their original into other languages&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	* the teachings should be well known among the community of&lt;br /&gt;
	  scholars dedicated to them.  they should not be recondite &lt;br /&gt;
	  teachings of dubious veracity, dubious origin, or cryptic sense&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
     when you have found teachings that meet all these criteria, you can &lt;br /&gt;
     be confident that you have found authentic instruction that is &lt;br /&gt;
     worthy of your time, effort and study.  beyond this lies danger and&lt;br /&gt;
     such confidence is less surely placed&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/PRE&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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